Sunday 30 November 2008

More art :

Meltdown Man/Armageddon :

I had my own version of it this in a dream this morning when i found myself at the scene of a Nuclear warhead going off overhead.No idea if it was an air or ground detonation but i remember looking up and seeing the pillar of black smoke that went upwards to the mushroom cloud that was dark grey /black.The location seemed to be somewhere that was high up and dry and mountainous like Afghanistan.The light all around became orangey with a lot of dust being blown around.The air temperature became very very hot and objects and debris were igniting and burning and i was trying to escape it and saw a rectangular pool of water and thought about sheltering in that but thought it wouldnt be a good idea as the water started to boil and instead chose to run for a steel door in one of the buildings but then i thought it would be pointless.

The whole scenario seemed to be slowed down from real time.

I have logged this here just as a record.

Mumbai Jihadists:

I havent really been following this apart from see various very graphic images.Really though the only thing to do with the Jihadist Trash who were responsible for the atrocities is to shoot them on sight.No deals - No negotiating - just shoot them.


End of story.

If there is an element of Jihadists/Radical Islamists in the UK which appears to be the case then they should be purged out of existence and deported.They should not be pandered to by Govt as the indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians/soft targets is sick and pointless.

I would also like to see the peace loving "good" Muslims do more to stop this problem instead of doing NOTHING.The Jihadists are indirectly doing more and more harm to the rest of the Muslim population as they get tarred with the same brush.

Saturday 29 November 2008

WTF is going on update :

Actually just realised that if the shares that the Govt are selling on behalf of the bank that has been bailed out wouldnt be a bad deal if you got the equivelant tax relief that was the cost of shares otherwise you would be effectivly buying tax and you would be paying even more tax.

Offering tax relief on the cost of the shares would be a good idea unless the revenue that the Govt received from the sale of shares was offset against the cost of bailing out the bank that has been charged to the taxpayer.So therefore the Govt has provided a bridging loan to keep the bank afloat before it is re-privatised/floated on the stock exchange.That is sound economic sense and i could live with that.

The secret to surviving all this and using the system to your own advantage or making the banks just that little bit more desperate for your business is for *everyone* that being private individuals is to not borrow ANY money for at least 6 months maybe 9 months and by that time the banks will be desperate for your business and they will drastically reduce their interest rates which may mean the whole situation gets worse.

The way i see it is that in future banks will have to scale themselves down [turnover] and expect to lend out less money and make a smaller amount of money based on sensible lending policy.

Everyone is going to have to get used to making less money and perhaps in my lifetime there may be a situation where an economy doesnt have to grow year in year out and instead remains more or less static.Whats wrong with this ?theres plenty of companies whose turnover remains steady and who dont constantly feel that they should expand and grow.I think small is beautiful.Bigger is not better.

James Morrisn/Nelly Futardo:

I listen to radio 2 at work.I kept hearing the song Broken Strings being played a lot and first of all my attitude was "not more bloody James Morrison etc" but then i actually listened and dropped my prejudices and thought James Morrison does have a good voice that is very soulful and then the penny dropped and i realised what a good song it is and i like the sentiment of it and i also thought Nelly Futardo isnt bad either.

Great song and i keep listening to it.

If you are a music lover and know anything about music then you like music regartdless of the artist and my tastes go right across the board rather than being stuck in genres or namedropping "cool" music but having said that i am a 40 yr old adult not a 16 - 20 yr old.

I was well pissed off today when i was scouring charity shops for CDs when i found the MGMT album [electric feel] and i thought Bingo when i realised the CD case was empty of the CD .Probably nicked.Bollox.

However i wish all these faceless X factor type girl bands would just Fuck Off permanently like Girls Aloud.Fuck Off all of you.So What ? You can sing.So Fucking What ?Theres nothing distinctive about ANY of you.They dont write their own material and all they do is do what they are told to do by their managers/record companies.They are tecnically alright/good competent singers and they arent ugly to look at but their music and themselves are lacking that extra something that makes good music.There is something intrinsically hollow and faceless and manufactured about the whole X factor ethos.

FAKE.

Watching Little Feat on BBC guitar heroes.I just dont get this band and never have and i have bad associations with Little Feat and i dont care if i never hear them again.Also why does their drummer really look like he is straining to keep a very simple 2/2 beat or whatever it was ? Its not that difficult .Its so easy its boring.

Oh God now its Dr.Feelgood who i just cant stand.Awful.Pub Rock and now a speeded up version of Oye commo va /Santana and its no good speeded up .Its better slow.

Now it gets better.John Martyn /Dealer.Thats more like it.

Flips - Flops for Fuckwits :


I had to laugh at this article and obviously its a waste of money.Nice choice of colours and its tough to choose between pink and lilac.Really its pathetic.

Drink less and wear sensible footwear.Easy and its not like they do the samething a few times and learn but they KEEP doing it do they must be incapable of learning and also since i used to run a bar in a nightclub it was always club policy to stop serving an individual alcohol if they were paralytic so whats the problem ?

Poor delicate little things cant even walk in barefeet.Aaaaaahh...there there have a pair of pink flip flops for your poor little feet.

Why not take some shoes to walk home in in a rucksack or something ?

Dumb idiots.Tax them all.Tax the stupid.

Friday 28 November 2008

Change :






Add these 3 together plus various Bush cabinet members and you have either NO change or Change you cant believe in.

Anyone got any spare change ?

WTF IS GOING ON ????

Seriously just WTF IS going on with the way the government is handling the economic crisis/bailouts ???

The government is attempting to sell shares to the public/taxpayers/investors to banks that have been bailed out at taxpayers expense !!!!

Unbelievable.

This is unprecedented as far as i know and it appears to be a new concept.That concept being a mutation/fusion of 2 different ideaolgies [socialism/capitalism].However it is flawed because the average taxpayer isnt part of the great share ownership democracy as they cant afford it which means in effect that the taxpayer is funding investors/capitalism.

This is unprecedented like i say.

The "New" Labour Govt are Communitarianians which like i say is a fusion of Left/ Right political thinking .This is why if you ask the simple question "Are the EU Left wing or Right wing ??" the opinion is is that they are Left wing.I have taken this to the next stage that has moved beyond the Left/Right and into Communitarianism which is what it is.They dont actually exist as a political party I.E The Communist Party as they seem to prefer NOT to acknowledge themselves as such preferring to continue their existence as Conservatives / Labour just to continue the illusion that there is still an active opposition party to that which currently resides in NO.10.This is why [if you have been paying attention] that there is a one party state in the UK as there is very little difference between Labour/Conservative parties any more.This is why you will see very little difference when a Conservative Govt is potentially elected in the next election.Same shit - different day.This means that you will get all the benefits of Capitalism while at the same time there will be a distinct lack of direct democracy which means democracy that you have a say in as the Govt will make more and more decisions on your behalf which they believe are in your best interests.A typical example of this is that there has been NO referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

Like i say Communitarianism leans heavily to the Left which means it is ANTI - Democratic and if you have been paying attention to current events you will see that this is exactly what is happening.Elections are pointless and they only serve to re enforce the illusion that elections change anything which re - enforces my long standing opinion that the only good political party is the party that is in opposition.When the opposition party inevitably gets into power you will see NO real "Change".

Experience and my better judgement tell me this will be the case in the US concerning "change" or alternativly they will be brought into line with the UK as the US is 11 years behind the UK/EU.


The Damien Green arrest incident is just the Left wing showing their Stasi-ist tendencies.They expect crime rates to increase because of the economic situation.

Geniuses !!.

Thursday 27 November 2008

Thanksgiving :



1 bowl of Muesli and 2 cans of imported Stella and 5 visitors.

I am not religious but you dont have to be as Mother Earth provides for all regardless of religious denomination and the Harvest Festival goes way back to Pagan/pre-christian times anyway and besides i dont like Turkey.
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LMMFAO @ the Dumb Liberals :

Link to Dumb Liberal video :http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=833_1227796260

Will someone PLEASE tell these shallow dumbfuck Lib children to just STFU about Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin - Sarah Palin - Sarah Palin ......

Lets see these Fucktards make videos that are about Liberal foreign policy for example.

Whats their opinion about an increase in US forces in Afghanistan ?

"Sarah Palin is just SO awful !"

What do they know about politics ? "Sarah Palin is totally unqualified !"

What do they think about Robert Gates staying on as Secretary of Defense ? "Sarah Palin sucks !"




This is the mentality i have been talking about so often.

Wednesday 26 November 2008

3 solutions :

1:Credit Unions.

2:Exiting the EU and the removal of New Labour from office.Civil servants/Whitehall can run the country for the time being with oversight while "New" Labour are investigated.

3:Liberating the deposits in illegal offshore slush funds.This presents its own problems because the overseas slush funds may well make up a large amount of an offshore/foreign banks investment portfolio and actual existing assets.

Hypothesis:

Lets say that there is 5 trillion USD held by a bank in Germany as a part of the missing 27.5 trillion [Hillary Clinton Childrens Charity] then demanding that 5 trillion back from the bank in Germany because it was stolen will obviously not be very good for the economy of Germany or the banks account holders so it seems like the answer is for the US taxpayer /US interests[the taxpayer] to have a 5 trillion share in that bank as ownership is transferred.They would each own shares that were not bought and sold and a percentage of that would either be paid out in dividends to each shareholder or used to fund government spending in the US .Not possible as it will take out a huge chunk of taxes paid by that bank into the German Economy.So really the money is locked into the system and cant be moved so transfer of ownership is the only solution without wrecking the worldwide economy even more.

I am not an economist so i have no real idea about the implications of recovering offshore funds and the effect on a foreign countries economy that would be the result of it.


"WE must inject large amounts of money into the economy NOW to get the economy moving again !" Fair enough if it means cashflow for businesses and factoring etc.No problem with that but if it means that private individuals should increase their own personal debt then its fucking stupid and irresponsible and anyway they dont want to borrow because the Govt and the media have already scared the shit out of them and now they want to save money NOT borrow more.

Stupid Govt proves that it hasnt learnt a fucking thing and thinks that just throwing more cash at the problem as it exists is going to change anything when they have done NOTHING to stop the problem at source.

They would have been better off giving each taxpayer 12,500 each to spend/invest in the economy according to their own investing /spending habits.They want us to spend our way out of a recession but they want us to borrow more money to spend.However if even part of that 12,500 each is invested/deposited in Banks then the banks are recapitalised anyway to an extent and then that money is lent out again anyway and so it goes on unless banking practices are regulated.

STOP Fractional reserve lending and INCREASE the rate of interest payable by banks to account holders/investors so that they get a decent return on their investment instead of all those ridiculously low derisory rates of interest that have been the industry standard since this bullshit began.

Really WTF was all that about ?

That came out of nowhere.

It drove investors away from Banks and into Property which because of low interest rates and easy lending created an unsustainable house price bubble.


Banks will make less money .So What ? WHO gives a F about Shareholders anyway ?Fuck them all except we are ALL shareholders but dont expect any dividends at the end of the year.Socialism/Marxism/Nationalisation doesnt pay out dividends to investors except the govt who keeps the money.

"This is a good investment for the UK taxpayer" .

Stupid fucking Twats.Cut the Income tax rates you Morons for a year or so.2% of the rate of income tax for the average earner.That shouldnt make that much difference to public spending as this Govt wastes so much Fucking money anyway [Another story].

You wont even see their accounts .

SCAM.

Alistair Darling what a prize Prick he is.

V important article concerning the bailouts and the EU:

BRITAIN'S WAY OUT OF CRISIS: STOP PAYING THE E.U.
UK TAXPAYERS' MONEY POURED DOWN CORRUPT BRUSSELS SINK HOLE
Thursday 20 November 2008 05:10

NEW REPORT SHOWS BRITAIN HAS PAID BRUSSELS £230.4 BILLION GROSS

EDITOR SAYS: SUSPEND PAYMENTS TO THE E.C. UNTIL IT CLEANS UP ITS ACCOUNTS

By Christopher Story FRSA, Editor and Publisher, International Currency Review and associated intelligence publications and information services. See this site for details and ordering facility.

London, 20th November 2008:
The first report in this series publicised the following realities:

• The two signatories of Britain's accession to the European Economic Communities, the long-range entrapment device developed by the secret Nazi strategic continuum since exposed as Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD), Dachau, were recruited by the Nazis before the war. Their names were: Edward Heath and Geoffrey Rippon. This report remains, like all our analyses, easy to access via our Archive: see the report dated 12th October 2005.

• Successive European collective treaties are routinely procured by means of gross bribery. In that report, we exposed the fact that slush fund payments worth $100 million equivalent for each of the 25 EU 'Member States' had been 'bunged' to prime 'facilitators' of the (subsequently unratified) EU 'Constitution' Treaty. The normal procedure is for 50% of the available slush money to be paid to the national 'facilitators' on completion of the Intergovernmental Conference at which these odious anti-nation state EU collective treaties are 'negotiated', and for the second 50% (in that instance, worth a further $2.5 billion in total) to be paid to the corrupt 'facilitators' on ratification.

CORRUPT FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR RATIFICATION OF THE LISBON TREATY
As you can imagine, this of course provides a mighty incentive for the 'facilitators' to move hell and earth to procure ratification: which of course explains their fury at the behaviour of the Irish, who indicated in their referendum that they are not enamoured of losing their independence, after all that they have been through, thank you very much.

So, when observing the frantic activities and snide observations of the corrupt EU 'movers and shakers' on the political stage who are pushing for the EU's Lisbon Treaty (which will destroy the Member States' residual sovereignty completely), just bear in mind, would you, that, once again, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY: the slush fund money that the top 'facilitators' fancy being placed into their offshore bank accounts. They are drooling at the thought of it.

• FACT: The Editor traced Blair's $100 slush million to the Central Bank of Belize. It surfaced there between February and March 2006. Source: International Monetary Fund, 'International Financial Statistics'. This fact, together with the above information, was emblazoned all over our output at the time, and when not a single feeble British journalist paid the slightest attention, we publicised the names of the journalists to whom we had distributed this information. Did they care?

NEW ANALYSIS OF THE VAST COST TO BRITAIN OF ITS RECKLESS E.U. MEMBERSHIP
NOW, Gerard Batten, the very sensible and level-headed MEP, has taken matters further by carrying out detailed research into the gross and net total costs of Britain's counterproductive membership of the pan-German-controlled European Union Collective.

As we have often pointed out, this is a long-range strategic deception entrapment mechanism which was originally planned, in its modern format, by Nazi intellectuals, as laid out in Europaische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft ('European Economic Community'), a compendium of papers presented at a Nazi symposium in 1941 and published in Berlin in 1942. Facsimiles and text from this document are featured in the Editor's book 'The New Underworld Order' in Chapter Ten: The Thousand-Year Reich. This book may be ordered via this website [go to the Edward Harle Limited segment].

The chapter headings of that 1941 Nazi compendium correspond almost precisely with the main headings of the Maastricht Treaty of 1992, which this Editor fought against at the time.

UK TREASURY WOULDN'T PUBLISH A COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS
For many years, pressure was exerted on the UK Treasury to publish a detailed analysis of the cost and benefits (if any) to Britain of its disastrous membership of this corrupt supragovernmental New Underworld Order organisation. The Treasury refused to comply, at least for public consumption. Gerard Batten MEP has conducted the necessary research, which is published by the Bruges Group (Honorary President: The Rt. Hon. the Baroness Thatcher of Kesteven, LG, OM, FRS).

Gerard Batten's report will be presented at a conference scheduled for Saturday 22nd November 2008 in the Great Hall, King's College, London, The Strand, London WC2R 2LS.

For further information, contact the Director of the Bruges Group, Robert Oulds, on:
+44 (0) 20-7287 4414; mobile: 07740-029787: Email: info@brugesgroup.com.

You can also contact Gerard Batten MEP direct on his cell phone: 07843-423864.

EUROPEAN COMMISSION'S ACCOUNTS NIXED BY E.U. AUDITORS FOR THE 14TH YEAR
As this service has recently reiterated, this is the FOURTEENTH YEAR in which the European Union's Court of Auditors has REFUSED TO SIGN OFF on the European Commission's accounts.

The Court of Auditors is the tame EU 'institution' which is required to 'validate' or 'rubber-stamp' the European Commission's accounts. Yet even this tame entity, which was set up precisely in order to provide the EC's accounts with 'legitimacy', hasn't dared to approve the EC's finances, because its members fear that if they were to fudge the matter, they could well be held personally liable for the fraudulent finance operations and trickery that surface every year in these accounts.

So to be safe, the Court of Auditors routinely refuses to sign.

In October 2005, we published a complete issue of International Currency Review which exposed massive ongoing and repeated financial fraud inside the structures of the European Commission.

The kind of frauds favoured by these EU parasites is to establish offshore corporations and bank accounts in, say, Luxembourg, and then to direct contracts from inside the European Commission to such controlled, corrupt enterprises, usually with cutouts to 'disguise' what is going on.

This type of fraudulent practice has remained rife ever since this rotten German construct was first established: but our own impression is that such frauds have become more and more common as the Eurocracy has developed increasingly sophisticated methods for covering up these activities. Successive British Governments have gone along with all this corruption, as though it was of no consequence: which of course means that Ministers are co-conspirators in these ongoing frauds.

SOPHISTICATED MEANS OF COVERING UP EUROPEAN UNION FRAUD
Gimmicks deployed by the Europarastites include 'calling for' successive 'investigations'.

This creates an environment in which the first investigation, after 'completing its work' [sic] may be 'suspended' pending the outcome of a second investigation. As many as four investigations by different entities within the EU structures have been known to materialise, with the objective being to string investigations out to the end of the European Commission's six-year term. When the new Commission arrives, these 'old' issues are suddenly 'yesterday's problem': 'That was a matter for the previous Commission. We can't deal with it. Don't know anything about it'.

Another favourite trick is to pin the blame onto given 'Member States', so that it's never the Commission's fault (which is always the reverse of the truth). Anyway, you get the picture.

TO AVOID FURTHER CONTAMINATION, WE MUST WITHHOLD E.U. PAYMENTS
The proper response to this scandalous state of affairs is this:

• The British Government must withhold all payments to the European Union's structures with immediate effect. For the time being, the Value Added Tax taxpayer funds should be paid into a suspense account. The European Commission should be told: You have had 14 years to clean up your accounts and to suppress financial fraud, and you have failed to do so. We are fed up with your endless prevarication and deceit. You are hereby informed, therefore, that all UK payments to the European Union are suspended sine die, until such time as WE are satisfied that your accounts are in order. Furthermore, in view of your recalcitrant failure to comply with appropriate accounting standards, WE will be the judge as to whether, and when, your behaviour and transparency on this score has improved to the point that we will be able to consider releasing the suspended funds.

• You have two years to clean up your act. If you fail to do so to our satisfaction, we will confirm suspension of all taxpayer monies to the European Union indefinitely.

WHAT'S IN THIS FOR GORDON BROWN? RE-ELECTION BY A LANDSLIDE...
Every other word Gordon Brown employes is 'global'. He has repeatedly made it crystal clear that he is what he calls an 'internationalist', by which he means that he is an international socialist.

So, ON THE FACE OF IT, one would be reluctant to bet on Mr Brown taking up this suggestion, not least since it comes from the Editor of this service. HOWEVER, while all these operatives on the stage are working to The New Underworld Order script, there is ONE THING they ALL consider to be MORE important than the failing internationalist agenda: STAYING IN POWER.

• FACT: If Gordon Brown wants to prolong his premiership out into the future (assuming that his blindness in one eye allows this), he would be well advised to adopt the hardline stance towards the European Union's finances outlined above. For why? It's in his own interest! Promulgation of such a policy would ensure a MASSIVE VICTORY for the Labour Government at the next election. This Editor doesn't like this Government, of course. But our continued membership of the corrupt and failing European Union Collective is even worse. We opt for the lesser of two evils, since it is quite clear that the so-called 'Conservative' Party has no guts and is even more brainwashed, if that is conceivable, than the dull, mainly Scottish, masonic ideologues which have taken over Whitehall. (Telephone any part of Whitehall, and the female who answers has a Scottish accent).

THE MAIN FINDINGS OF THIS NEW RESEARCH
Gerard Batten's research findings include the following:

• Total direct and indirect costs of Britain's catastrophic membership of the EU Collective in 2008 are shown to be £55.775 billion down the drain. Specifically, EU membership this year will have cost us almost £65.675 billion per annum gross, or almost £55.775 billion net.

• Due to endless fraud, it is likely, Mr Batten argues, that the equivalent of Britain's entire net contribution to the European Union is lining the pockets of EC Eurocrats, politicos and fraudsters.

• By the end of 2008, Britain will have contributed £230.4 billion gross to the EU structures.

• By the end of the current European Commission budget period (ending in 2009), Britain will have made estimated contributions to the EC Budget of £315.4 billion gross and £101.4 billion net.

• EU membership is disastrous for Britain in respect of trade. By 2007, the UK had accumulated a trade deficit with the other EU 'Member States' of £383.7 billion. What's the point of membership given such numbers? These arise, of course, from the fact that we have allowed the Germans, the French and others to ransack our industrial base. It's OUR fault, but we MUST PUT IT RIGHT.

• The EU's Common Agricultural Policy, which has destroyed Britain's ancient expertise in feeding itself, costs the United Kingdom at least £16.8 billion per annum.

• The Common Fisheries Policy, which has destroyed Britain's fishing industry in favour of bearded Spaniards, costs Britain at least £3.275 billion annually: for the privilege of seeing its fishing fleet and personnel, not to mention ancient fishing expertise, permanently decimated.

• Excessive nit-picking regulation (the essence, by the way, of Communism) costs the United Kingdom at least £28 billion annually. The latest piece of EC nonsense is that in places where employees work, all electric appliances must have their plugs tested in a special unit, to see whether or not they 'comply' with whatever piece of bogus 'health and safety' jargon applies.
A few days ago, we employed a local firm to refix one of the electric fittings in our building.

They ventilated on this subject, estimating that it would cost us £400 for the privilege of getting this done. Another favourite EC practice is to change regulations very frequently: that means that your 'compliance' last year will be out of date next year, generating huge windfall profits for all kinds of players in this corrupt sink of iniquity.

IF YOU STAND UP TO CROOKS, THEY BACK OFF
Self-evidently, if Britain were to suspend its contributions to the European Commission's budget, this would set Britain on a path to getting out of this trap: something that the co-conspiring and feckless British political Establishment is terrified of doing. We have news for these people:

• FACT: Resolution of the global Settlements crisis and the cleaning up of the epidemic of financial fraud which was about to destroy the entire international economy is entirely a consequence of the exposures publicised inter alia on this website.

That is universally acknowledged around the world.

And THIS development is, in turn, a consequence of deciding to STAND UP TO THE CRIMINALS.

Recall from the Gospel of John that when Judas Iscariot, accompanied by a band of thugs with sticks and staves and lanterns, came looking for Jesus Christ, Judas asked: 'Where is Jesus of Nazareth?' and He replied: 'I am He'. Whereupon John reports that 'they fell back to the ground'.

AN INFALLIBLE INSPIRATION FOR POSITIVE ACTION AGAINST CORRUPTION
The Editor of this service takes this passage from Scripture as his infallible inspiration in standing up to these criminal cadres who are destroying our world. Just LOOK what has taken place since we started to expose the fraudulent finance on this website and in our publications.

•FACT: Exactly the SAME will happen when Britain FINALLY does what is necessary, beginning with suspending all taxpayer funds to the European Commission. MONEY TALKS. The world will SIT UP AND TAKE NOTICE. And Gordon Brown will be re-elected with a thumping majority.

Meanwhile, Gerard Batten MEP has clearly been thinking along the same lines as us. He says:

THE EFFECTS OF FREEING BRITAIN FROM THE EU WILL INCLUDE:

• A MASSIVE, EARLY BOOST TO THE ECONOMY: Since EU red tape is holding back the UK economy by £28 billion, equivalent to 2% of UK GDP, it is clear that freeing Britain from such EU control will get Britain out of recession, helping to get British people back to work.

Such a calculation would presuppose the termination of all red tape imposed by the EU on British businesses, which may be optimistic: but the point is that swathes of 'controls' could be abolished overnight once the stupid IDOLATRY of EU membership fashionable among the Establishment had been ground into the dust.

• COST-FREE TAX CUTS: British politicians are struggling to explain how they will deliver the tax cuts that the British economy now needs. Yet they have so far refused, because of their myopic idolatry of EU membership, to accept that this money can be found if we stop paying billions of pounds per year of taxpayers’ money into this manipulated, German-dominated political collective where no-one is responsible for anything (because it's a collective), and so NOBODY CARES.

• It's not as though we don't have the perfect pretext for doing this: since the European official structures can't be bothered to clean up their corrupt finances, Britain needn't be bothered to pay taxpayers' money over to these self-interested, corrupt parasites.

• WE SHOULD ADOPT THIS STRATEGY IMMEDIATELY.

Gerard Batten says that a 2% boost to economic growth created by leaving the EU and slashing its excessive red tape would also increase tax revenues by £10.73 billion. Combine that with the direct savings to the Exchequer, and it will allow for a 6p in-the-pound cut in the basic rate of income tax.

The Editor diverges from this approach, because by far the quickest and easiest course would be to suspend all payments to the EU immediately on the basis that the EC's accounts are fraudulent, given that the Court of Auditors have refused to sign them for 14 years in a row. We don't in fact need any calculations at all: all we need to do is to STOP the payments NOW.

A HUGE FUND WILL ACCUMULATE VERY QUICKLY
Within two years, WELL OVER £100 BILLION will be sitting in the suspense account. Since, on past performance, there is not the slightest chance that the European Commission will ever clean up its financial act, and since WE will be the judge of whether any reform of the EC accounts meets OUR requirements, we won't need to pay a single penny to the European Union Collective ever again.

• The way will have been paved, at last, for the treachery of that Nazi pervert, the late Edward Heath, to be reversed. And by the way, the Foreign Office notion that we must always be NICE to foreigners is a pathetic delusion! Foreigners don't respect 'niceness'. No, the only reality of any relevance is that MONEY TALKS. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

• The Editor GUARANTEES that if Britain were to implement such a simple strategy:

(1) We would get out of imminent depression faster than an eel jumping out of Cockney's eel pie.

(2) Gordon Brown would be re-elected with a massive majority.

(3) The whole world would sit up and take notice; and:

(4) A FURTHER decisive blow would have been inflicted on The New Underworld Order, on top of the MASSIVE BLOWS that have been administered from all directions as a direct consequence of the simple EXPOSURE strategy of STANDING UP TO THESE CROOKS AND FACING THEM DOWN.

TIME FOR BRITISH GOVERNMENTS TO DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, NOT WHAT THEY WANT
British Governments relish DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE BRITISH PEOPLE WANT. That's why Deutsche Bank, the DVD's key controlled institution, has been financing Common Purpose, an evil, insidious mind-bending programme run out of the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister (under that revolting creature John Prescott, anyway) which is engaged in brainwashing cadres throughout the British official structures (the police, local authority personnel, certain military cadres, lazy civil servants, complacent industrialists and their staffs), in one of the most destructive Fifth Column operations ever to have been perpetrated upon British subjects.

• So here's a nice thought, for a change: Deutsche Bank is now in severe trouble, thanks to our exposures. That means it may even have to pull the financing plug on Common Purpose!

Gerard Batten, adds: 'If the British Government really believes that membership of the EU is in the interests of the British people, they should commission an independent cost/benefit analysis to demonstrate the economic effects of membership'.

• The Treasury, as indicated above, has always refused to do this, having suppressed its own findings which would hardly buttress the official case for continued EU participation.

In the preceding report, the Editor exposed the British Ministry of Defence for its gross iniquity in operating in Afghanistan to protect the heroin trade [see Archive].

• No official denial of that serious accusation has yet been forthcoming: BECAUSE IT'S ALL TRUE.

• In addition to suspending further British taxpayers' funding of The European Union Collective, the Enemy of its Member States, British troops should GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN and the UK Government should PUBLICLY RENOUNCE OFFICIAL PARTICIPATION IN THE DRUG BUSINESS.

• Officials evidently throught that no-one would EVER raise this issue. WRONG AGAIN. Just like almost everything they touch these days, policymakers DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE BRITISH PEOPLE WANT. We DON'T WANT to go on supporting the corrupt European Commission and its filthy dirty, unscrupulous financial frauds; and we DON'T WANT our military to continue protecting the US heroin trade, because we DON'T WANT our children to be poisoned and destroyed.

• WELCOME to the overdue COUNTER REVOLUTION against these geomasonic snakes.

• Press Archive above to read the Editor's exposure of the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) and its operations in Afghanistan which are now confirmed as being driven by an 'imperative' to control the criminal heroin business. One hears certain cynical sophisticates saying: 'If we don't control it, enemies will'. However since the British and American Governments, which should know better, are engaged in drug operations, that alibi won't fly. Official drug operations in Britain are handled via Government Operations 2 (GO-2), which controls two main drug cartels operating in the United Kingdom. Proceeds from these operations are milked to help finance the captive political parties."


Go to www.worldreports.org [news articles]to find out more.

Intrum Justitia :

Had a call from IJ and a very pleasent and polite female employee was on the other end.No point bawling her out at all as she is just doing her job and she isnt getting paid to listen to any of my swearing and ranting and i believe in politeness and civility and respect for others [unless provoked] and she sounded alright and listened to what i was saying which was for them to request the details of the so called debt from Paypal and forward them to here.No problemo.Call centre staff are easy to get along with if you know how.Its not her fault anyway.

Its curious that IJ are not given those details when hired to chase the debt that is assumed to be existing therefore placing IJ call centre staff in the firing line from someone like myself who may be justifiably annoyed.She sounded like she has heard it all before .

Dear Bank manager :

Dear Bank Manager :I would like to take out a loan as i dont have any money.Could you lend me some money that you dont have or have created out of thin air ? If you lend me some money then i promise i wont go and tell everyone that your bank is about to go bankrupt therefore avoiding a run on your bank by accountholders who will want to get their money before its too late only to be told that they cant have their money back because you have lent it out and not only that but you have lent it out ten times.

Fuck The Banksters and their immoral criminal Usary and fraud and look into Credit Unions instead.

Credit Unions are the solution to banking problems but remember dont all rush forwards at once and make a run on the banks.do it slowly or the bank will go under immediately and be seized by Government /bailed out and you will pay for it by taxes and you will lose your deposits.

Go to Woccu to find out more [world council of credit unions].

Most towns and cities in the UK have their own credit unions and they are all over the US and banks HATE them and have tried to legislate them out of existence but have failed.

Tuesday 25 November 2008

Government fiscal policy :

"Pressure on the Government to do more to compel the banks to boost the flow of credit to business is also stepped up today by the CBI. In a letter to the Prime Minister, Richard Lambert, the Director-General of the CBI, calls for urgent action.

“The biggest threat hanging over businesses is cashflow. If they cannot get their hands on the cash and credit they need to go about their day-to-day business, there is a real risk that we could see healthy firms going under,” he writes.

“The next six months will be critical.

If we are to stand a fighting chance of preventing this recession from becoming longer and more painful, we need to act now to get the credit markets working properly.”

His call comes after Bank of England figures showed last week that the growth of lending to households and nonfinancial businesses fell in September to an annual rate of only 6.8 per cent, the lowest since 1998."


Dear bank manager:I dont have any money so i would like to take out a loan.I understand the you have been given my money that i dont have by the government so that you can lend it back to me with interest.I might not be able to pay it back either if the economic situation gets much worse so that means that i may not pay back my money that i gave to you to lend it back to me.

Or its giving money to shareholders.Public money funding private enterprise.
150,000,000,000 [bailouts] divided by 40,000,000 [taxpayers] = 375 quid each.Its not that much when its broken down unless my maths is totally out.Or 3,750 quid which means a 500 billion bailout means 12,500 quid pertaxpayer .

It seems that banks should not be PLCs because with PLCs so the profits are shared out with shareholders whereas if the bank was a limited company or whatever they were before they were privatised then the banks would accumulate profits therefore saving for a rainy day.

Banks have made huge profits year in year out and yet nothing has been saved by the banks as they are being given money to lend out.No reserves either it seems to fall back on.

So really a bank without reserves other than account holders money isnt really a bank because they dont hold cash and they dont have gold bullion in their basements.Yet they have lent out huge amounts of cash so it can only mean they have either lent out account holders cash or they have lent out virtual money that they never had to begin with.

At what point does a bank stop lending money ?Assuming they have money of their own should they have lent out their last fiver ?

How many borrowers can a bank lend to at any one time ? Is it finite or infinate ? also if that bank has x amount of existing borrowers and x amount are bad debts is it sensible to lend out even more even in this climate ?



Its a mindbender.


Low interest rates = Failure because to compensate for the low interest rates paid out the bankers have gambled on proliferating cheap easy lending and its unsustainable as all the cash has been lent out.Well actually its standard practice for a bank to lend out 6 to 10 times its deposits and it hopes that its deposit holders dont all want their money back at once.Fractional reserve lending plus low interest easy lending = Disaster but very profitable in a boom time so where have all the profits gone ? Shareholders.So in a sense re-nationalising banks isnt a bad idea as greed and stupidity has killed the banking system.The banking system has killed itself.Shareholders are like parasites who dont contribute anything back to what they feed off plus the fact that they must be all Morons because no one at their AGMs pointed out the fact their banks lending policy was completely flawed and stupid and questioned their Directors/CEOs at any time.So they let it all happen and just milked it for what it was worth.

Times online comments :Are you telling me that 125% mortgages, unverified self-cert and BTL mortgages are "normal lending"?

Anyone who thinks 2007 lending patterns were "normal" hasn't given much thought to the other 500 or so years of banking history since the BoE was established.

Dylan, Rossendale,

The banks have slashed their savings rates and those running them wonder why they continue to be undercapitalised. Did it ever occur to them that savers have simply abandoned them?

Paul, Coventry,

How can the Government finance Banks at a rate of 12% for their preference shares and yet expect the banks to lend at the rate applied before the catastrophe (less the reduction in Bank rate). How long can the beleaguered banks sustain such subsidy to SME without themselves going bankrupt?

S Yogarajah, Harrow, UK

give us all a million pounds each and see what happens, we may consider lending some of it back to the Bank....at a price!!

maddison, london, england

Take money off you to give to banks,so they can lend it to you at a profit. Remove future spending power to sustain the unsustainable for another month. Genius.

The article 'Banks to Lend You Your Own Money' in the magnificent Daily Mash should be on the National Curriculum.

dave hall, Stafford, UK

"Normal lending?" As in the frivolously irresponsible lending of the last decade?

Bruce Robertson, Brighton, UK

Banks' finances are backed by nothing. They create debt from nothing, and expect us to pay it back! Its called Usary. There used to be laws against it. So, how can banks borrow money from the people? We don't have money! But the government gives what we don't have, so they can lend it back to us!

Simon, Bristol, UK

Utter nonsense from another bunch of academics. Full nationalisation-where we have 4 bank branches we only need one-massive redundancies, no competition, what happens when Labour decides to double interest rates? What about the banks' global operations? The sector is 10% fo GDP-it would be ruined.

Janet, London,

If Bank lending to Households and non-financial businesses is still rising by 6.8% p.a. the last thing that the government should do is to pressurise the banks into more lending. This government is simply creating even bigger problems for the future.

David Apperly, Wicken, UK

I took out a loan to buy a German sports car. The loan was secured against the equity in my house. I feel very let down by the government now that house prices are falling. Why should I now suffer the possible loss of my house. It was Mr Brown who said that he had ended the boom-bust cycle.

Medhan, London,

Why can't they use some of the tens of billions in profits they've made over the years?

Steve, London,

I don't understand. If 110bn were given to banks to restore finances following dodgy investments, why should they start lending? Consumers aren't spending, no one wants to borrow money therefore no new money is being created.

Monday 24 November 2008

Chickens come home to roost for Labour Darling :



Idiot Labour /liberals screw things up AGAIN !

I havent got the inclination or the time for this now.

However its pleasing to be proved correct yet again as events unfold and theres much more to follow.

New Labour are an anathema to me and really to cut to the chase they will be/already are the reason for the downfall of this country and whats worse is that this seems to have been deliberate and systematic.I am not buying the opinion that is the result of a series of unfortunate events and incompetence.This government needs to be removed fromn office and be subjected to CRIMINAL investigation.A chancellor of the UK who for nearly 10 years followed a fiscal agenda that had failure written all over it while at the same time repeatedly saying that "There will be no return to boom and bust".

To make matters worse GB is now offering "Solutions" to a problem that he is the cause of.Unbelievable but sadly true.A trillion of worth of borrowing from the Bank of England repayable with interest.

This government not only needs to be investigated for criminality in its policy making and hidden agenda [subversion of the UK by Common Purpose etc etc] but it also needs to be audited and investigated for fraud.

WTF have they been doing with money for the last 11 years ?


There is a MASSIVE black hole in the accounts of the treasury concerning public spending.This government sold off all the UKs gold reserve years ago.ALL GONE.

I had the feeling for years that this government was sucking this country dry and i smelt a Rat and i was right.


Its simply astonishing what is happening right now and there is too much to take in right now and its implications.Too much to assimilate .


Really though that budget is a fucking joke it really is.The scale of the borrowing and the bailouts is astonishing.Despite the huge amounts of money being doled out to banks its astonishing that these organisations are not being subject to troubleshooting etc.No word from government that the way that banks do business is not being subjected to scrutiny and investigation and much stricter regulation.Its just business as usual OR the banks are almost refusing to lend to businesses for example when they have been given the cash for exactly that reason.These organisations have not yet been investigated for fraud and criminality.

This is what happens when cash is given to banks without conditions being imposed.

For example in the US Citibank that has just been bailed out is now imposing an interest rate of approx 29.9% APR !!.Unbelievable really considering everything that is happening.Interest rates and banking/Lending policy/practice needs *regulating*.

I could make a better job of running things than these idiots.

The fact that the taxpayer has a huge bill stuck on them for all this is just unbelievable.

The way i see it is this :There is such a thing as an offshore US slush fund that originally set up for defence of the US against Russia/USSR or alternatively to fund an anti Russian agenda [destabilisation of by various means].The "Cold War" ended and ther funds were misappropriated and left in bank accounts and invested and moved around here there and everywhere until today when its value is estimated to be somewhere between 70 and 100 trillion USD.This "Slush Fund " may be unique to the US OR it may have had cash deposited in it from other countries that were also sharing the same agenda concerning Russia or more likely they have their own offshore slush funds using the same principles of offshore banking and investment.

So i say let them dip into their offshore slush funds and bail everything out at NO cost to the taxpayer.

What amount are we looking at here ?

Lets say...about 5 trillion.

Not much really when you consider the amounts of money i am talking about.

So HOW much UK taxpayers money has been siphoned off into offshore slush funds ??

This all needs investigating but it wont happen as the political mafia and the Bankster Mafioso are in control.


Obama appoints the President of the FED Tim Geithner as US Treasury Secretary .


Anyone got any spare change they can /cant believe in ??

Whats the upshot of all this ?? The economic downfall of the US and the UK and Europe and their full assimilation/re-organisation into NAFTA and the EU respectively as a [globalist] response to the contrived "Credit Crunch" SCAM.

Global problems need global solutions.




The taxpayer pays for the scam and really the amount of debt and future taxation of everyone is going to lock the UK/US into decades of economic slavery and hardship which will curtail any future economic recovery for decades.

All countries need their GDP so we will see everything under the control of the state.


And this is a solution ??

Its a Hegelian Dialectic.

Brave New World.

Fucked over by Communitarians/the Left.


Fucked over by the immoral and sick and perverted and i always found it curious how the Labour party has such a high ratio of Paedophiles in their party and these are just the known Paedophiles in the rank and file/membership of the party and that just one example.

Obama will pass abortion legislation that permits aborting late term pregnancies to the extent that if a baby is subjected to a late term abortion then survives the procedure its life can be terminated immediately after its birth.

Sick.

The Left never have any regard for life historically or otherwise.




I can hardly look at them anymore but listening to them is tolerable and necessary.

I have already given a solution in this post and its easy.


We are all SO fucked.

And what are YOU going to do about it ?

Sunday 23 November 2008

No second ammendment in the UK:

Thats unfortunate because this would be good for getting rid of Intrum Justitia debt collectors who arent welcome here and are trespassing.

Shoot them or Taser them on sight !!@

And you have them after you DO NOT let them in your house as they have NO right of entry without a court order.

Pests so they need pest controlling.

Take That :

I have to admit that i like the latest single as its kind of Xmasy.

A good song is a good song regardless of who is singing it .

Patience isnt a bad song either.

Gary Barlow is a bit of a tosser as he used to live very close [Delamere Park estate] to my folks house in Cheshire and he owned the very large pond that was close by and stopped ALL locals from fishing in it for no better reason than acting like the local bigshot.He also always looks slightly cross eyed close up and he always drove a blue VW Golf to be anonymous and a few times he drove past as i was walking down Cuddington Lane home he would *always* look at me in a certain way as he drove past and had to stop as the lane was very narrow.

Its funny because i think Shine is awful awful irritating annoying Shite.

Battle Abbey :


There arent many places in Sussex as beautiful as this and not many other schools that are set in such a beautiful location that actually looks over an actual battlefield where history [the battle of Hastings] was made which is the Senlac field.

The picture is of the gatehouse.

Bouganville Island :





Here is an interesting article abpout Bouganville Island [New Guinea/Solomon Islands] where i used to live a looooong time ago and there isnt a day thgat goes by when i dont think about returning and if the Shit hits the fan i might go back there and escape.I was there because my Father was heavily involved with Rio Tinto Zinc at the time but dont tell anyone about it.

The mining went tits up andthe article explains why:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://japanfocus.org/images/UserFiles/Image/2414.mcdonald.paradise/bouganville.islparad.jpg&imgrefurl=http://japanfocus.org/_Hamish_McDonald-Australia__Pacific_Islanders_and_the_Politics_of_Independence&usg=__ZzLgf-uDrKQkykWYYXfjOxiL4jc=&h=259&w=345&sz=27&hl=en&start=4&sig2=E6Rz0A4CByxF9DBK2a9Whw&um=1&tbnid=lyD9Ppr33LwtVM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&ei=dJopSYy9IorD-QbLlpCgAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbouganville%2Bisland%2Bsolomon%2Bislands%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Spacegoats:




These people were good .They were called spacegoats and did a lot of protesting at Twyford Down and i used to know them well back in the early to mid 90s but they have disbandednow IIRC and a couple of them are still around in Brighton who i see sometimes plus a third member that i last saw 2 years ago at a new years eve party.

They were a convergence of wandering minstrels.

Their music is still available on Pond Life records and i was asked to do artwork for their sleeves once but didnt quite get it together man.

I was sort of involved in all that culture of squatting in the 90s although i never squatted i used to go the Cooltan place in Brixton and there was a Church in Kentish Town IIRC and there was of course Squatland Yard which was a massive block of derelict flats near Scotland Yard which was taken over and squatted and absolutly full of Pigeon shit before it was cleaned out.I never went in for the look that went with it though like dreadlocks etc.I was an outsider of that scene as well as always and i was working.

All good fun though.

No snow :

I just wish that people would make sure that if they have an argument or a point about something that they are unhappy about would just think things through a little bit better to make sure that their argument is a valid one otherwise its just a waste of my time.
No snow so i had a playfight with cat instead [I have never met a bad natured cat]and extended session of cat fuss then had to go up in the attic to investigate a leaking roof which involves going up through the lofthatch without a ladder which is like gymnastics but very easy if you are able.Horrible itchy skin from crawling around next to loft insulation.Just listened to another rant from Micheal Moore about finding alternative means of transportation which doesnt involve an internal combustion engine.He has been well and truly fattened up on the Al Gore diet as he just appears to get BIGGER and BIGGER and BIGGER so Micheal Moore ought to try out one of the greatest inventions that mankind has produced which is the bicycle.Micheal Moore could do with a bike to get exercise and shed those unwanted pounds or tons of fat that he has accumulated.FAT chance of that happening as he is a Liberal and Liberals tell others what they should do without doing it themselves of course just like Al Gore.Micheal Moore is an overweight hypocritical profiteer who even invested cash in Halliburton of all things .Now thats what i call unprincipled especially from someone who is a Liberal anti capitalist.

I talk to my cat here to a certain extent and he definately gets it and this is one of the smartest cats i have come across and with Cats i find that there is a form of communication that is beyond talking that is more like an empathy plus i also find that cats communicate when we make eye contact as they are able to convey what they are feeling/thinking that way instead.Cats also like people who have balanced Yin/Yang like i have which means being Masculine while having a certain amount of femininity if that makes sense and i find all cat species to be Yin and Yang at the same time.

Very very intelligent creatures that when i have fights with them they never bite with excessive force as they realise its only a bit of fun.

An equal or fairly equal balance of male/female energy within a person creates a very powerful third energy which is a bit like Chi or even is Chi.

Anyway:

Get on your bike Mike but in the case of bailing out car companies in the US you are right except for asking Government to do the restructuring etc.BAD MOVE unless they follow the lead of Audi/VW etc who know what they are doing by way of an example or any of the Jap companies.

I am actually surprised that Chrysler are involved in this as they actually make good cars or at least the Jeep subsidary company do.

Sometimes he does talk sense and i share some of his views but i dont like him as a person and looks aside is it really necessary for him to have that baseball cap permanently glued to his head ?


Why should 3 US carmakers be given bailouts simply to keep them going as they are without any terms or conditions ??

This doesnt make any sense to me because if a company is failing then that company should be subject to troubleshooting to investigate and asses the problems within that are caused by bad decisions and inefficiency and stupid management/directors/CEOs and if necessary sack the Directors/CEOs and replace them.

They should have been subject to troubleshooting ages ago as they have been failing and they need this doing by talking to and hiring those who know what they are talking about instead of government.Study Euro and Asian car companies who are successful and build cars that dont fall apart and guzzle gas.Restructure and reprofile these companies.

If they are going to hold out their begging bowls then the CEOs/management/directors and unions need to be forced to make concessions that should be imposed on them after they have been subjected to troubleshooting which will involve creating new products that Americans want to buy instead of gas guzzling shit products that are badly designed and fall apart and break down every 5 minutes.

THeres NO reason for this not to happen in my opinion.

Unions wont make concessions and CEOS wont make any concessions at all .

Throwing good money after bad to simply keep existing jobs going that involve making shit products that no one wants to buy especially in this climate makes no economic sense or any sense at all.If they are failing now and wont change then surely later on they will fail anyway ?

If this is the case then let them fail or call in some foreign investment who know what they are doing as an alternative to taxpayer bailouts /nationalisation that doesnt solve any problems in the long term and surely if taxpayers fund bailouts then those taxpayers have a right to expect these companies to be troubleshooted and restructured otherwise its a bad investment ??

Stupid Liberals.It is they who are proposing the bailouts.

Clueless as ever and only interested in listening to Unions.

Fucking Idiots all of them.Liberals dont like capitalism and business because they are no good at it and clueless and giving them money is like giving money to children and letting them invest it.

Saving jobs for the sake of saving jobs in the long term WILL NOT solve anything in the long term.

And why is it that after all the taxpayer funded bailouts the government offers them nothing in return ??

Its no use telling us that its a good investment for the taxpayer if they get nothing in return is it ?? Thats not investing money thats giving money away and anything that comes out of the stupid fat ugly mouth of gordon brown is simply not worth listening to .This government has failed to build up a surplus of money instead of a deficit in 10 years of economic boom and has wasted vast amounts of money on what Americans call "Pork" and endless quangos plus the councils investing money offshore in Iceland.All of it is total ineptness.

This government wastes so much taxpayer/public money on bullshit and the EU and just about everything that you simply would not believe the figures.

MORONS and STILL people applaud Gordon Brown for taking "action".It doesnt matter what action is taken as long as action is taken and the DumbFuck Plebian Proletariat go along with it all even if they dont understand Politics and Economics and sound business sense even if its the wrong solution.Even so if everyone told the government they were making bad decisions they wouldnt listen anyway.

I was at work last week and listening to all this stuff ion the radio and i was overwhelmed by a temporary feeling of depression and hopelessness over how ultimatly fucked everything is and how its the fault of the people as well as government.

But i snapped out of it.



Its no surprise that the average Joe is a failure and Non achiever as they lack the intelligence to be anything else.They deserve to be losers.






Police in the UK are to be given more Taser guns.GOOD.Tasering drunken yobbish violent disrespectful anti social Fucks and Chavs in town centres at night/weekends should be encouraged as much as possible.I would love to be able to do this without any comebacks as there are far far too many of these idiots who just dont know when to shut up even when asked [even if its for their own good] and if they cant hold their drink and behave responsibly then thats not the behaviour of an adult.

Taser the bastards and bill them if they incur expenses from time wasting the Police and NHS and emergency services for example and bill them for all damages to others property for example and imprison and fine them if they assault doctors and nurses etc and give them some more ECT and keep doing it until they learn.


Electro - convulsive therapy sure does work and it shuts them up and teaches them respect and unfortunately its the only language idiots understand.One idiot i watched in a video [a white BNP thug] who was bragging to his friends about knifing or threatening to knife everyone in a chip shop or takeaway.I was involved in an incident like this less the knife where i had to "assist" the shopkeeper in ejecting a drunken abusive thug/moron from the premises and i enjoyed doing it.Great fun to be had there.I was accosted by an abusive drunk in Marylebone High St so i just kicked him up the arse into the road.Easy.

The only way to deal with chavs is to give them a slapping down that puts them in their place and teaches them a lesson they wont forget in a hurry.


Tasers are not really any good as i would want the kind of stungun that featured in the game Urban Chaos that doesnt fire projectiles but just fires a very high voltage charge that locks onto its target by itself and holds them there for as long as you like.This device would carry enough charge to electrify multiple targets if they are within a certain distance of each other enabling the user to not only kill/incapacitate 2 birds with one stone but up to half a dozen.Stop /start the ECT for added effect.

I dont advocate killing them but rather incapacitating them for easy arrest and processing.

Taser the weekend toughguys and Human garbage who wouldnt say anything to anyone if they werent drunk or in a gang with a good dose of unqualified ,arbitarily dispensed ECT and they wont bother anyone again for a long time and carry your own electric shock device .Shame they are banned in the UK.


I advocate Judge Dredd style instantly dispensed justice in this case with ANY kind of antisocial behaviour like Drunkenness and violence etc but i dont have a problem with them fighting amongst themselves though as it does more harm sometimes breaking up fights and i have been involved in fights that were broken up which was a shame because i was enjoying myself [not when drunk as i dont get drunk as a rule ] and they should stay out of it as its not their business.

I wouldnt mind trying out a Taser on Jacqui Smith after pointing the red aiming dot at her head.

I despise Weekenders and Weekend culture and it makes more sense to go out during the week or eat out at weekends and dont go in town centre pubs at weekends depending on the nature of the clientelle.I used to run a bar in a nightclub years and years ago and it was my policy and company policy to tell abusive and obnoxious MFs to either smartenup their behaviour and show some respect and ask nicely and politely or fuck Off and leave.

I find myself in the peculiar position of disagreeing with Al Gores man made climate change Horseshit ,carbon emissions etc while not tackling Deforestation etc while at the same i support the idea of finding and using and developing alternative solutions to fossil fuel like HEMP !!! but i have to draw the line at Agenda 21 if it goes too far in its proposals that possibly include an 80 percent reduction in human population for example .

Or DO i draw that line at all ?

Just wipeout 80 percent of them anyway and be done with it.More room and peace and quiet for the rest of us and the animal kingdom.

Saturday 22 November 2008

Theres always something :Intrum Justitia:

Nutty neighbour :I have a nutty neighbour an old woman called Sharon who i talk to *sometimes*.I was on my roof doing a repair and sharon has had roofers on her roof all week repairing it.I was doing a sort of neighbourly thing by inspecting the work that was done on her roof in case they were cowboys etc.Or not even that.I just walked along the flat part of the adjoining roof to mine and just looked and sometimes builders leave behind rubbish and debris etc that gets blown around and i was just checking.

"OFF MY ROOF !!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP THERE !!! YOU ARE STEALING SLATES !!!!! I WILL CALL THE POLICE !!!!!

"NO I AM NOT NICKING YOUR SLATES !! I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND I AM FIXING MY ROOF AND THATS WHY I AM ON THE ROOF .CALM YOURSELF DOWN AND STOP SHOUTING AND GO BACK INSIDE !!".

I had to raise my voice because i was on the roof.

She didnt even know who i was even though i live nextdoor !!

Bonkers.

She is known for this sort of thing.

Debt collectors :

Dear [no Mr or whatever] Peter W............ and using my first name that i dont like them using since i dont know them and have nothing to do with them.Its impolite and is a breach of protocol.


I have had a letter from a debt collection agency claiming i owe Paypal 145 quid which i dont as i have had NO dealings with Paypal .All my EBAY auctions have been paid using alternative means as i dont like Paypal and i dont like Escrow accounts and i dont like or trust an organisation that operates outside the boundries of banking law etc.

NO bills or requests or demands for payment have been received prior to todays letter from Paypal themselves as is normal when money is owing.

NOTHING

NO information provided explaining what or how the debt came into being in the first place.

So really this letter and demand for payment is illegal and the debt collectors are acting illegally.

Anyone who does owe money should be given opportunities to pay BEFORE it is passed on to debt collectors.

Of course the debt recovery agency is only contactable on an 0870 number so i will write to them instead.FUCK 0870 numbers.Theres NO reason that they need to have an 0870 number anyway.FUCK THEM.

Fuck talking to a Fucktard employee on an 0870 number.

I dont owe the money and i am NOT going to be threatened to pay money that i dont owe by companies or individuals who choose to operate illegally.

So FUCK Paypal and FUCK Intrusivum Justshitia who dont even introduce themselves and say who they are.Enclosed is an Alliance Leicester payment slip for Intrum Justitia.

WHO ARE Intrum Justitia ?

I want to know who someone is before i pay money into anyones bank account as the money could be going anywhere or into the bank account of a scammer and this has SCAM written all over it and the letter has no signature [even copied] so WHO am i dealing with ?

Yours sincerely who ??

They must think i am an idiot telling me i must do anything if there isnt money owing.

My call to an 0870 number is :"for security , calls may be monitored or recorded " !!

Lets assume i am calling to make a payment online [not that i would obviously] perhaps then i dont really want to do that if the call is going to be listened in on by persons unknown if i am providing confidential information of any kind and anyway i might prefer to call them on a line that isnt listened in on anyway just because its my own private business.If they dont have one or they are not forthcoming then i will insist on it anyway.

They say that they *may* be able to take payment by card on a telephone.

A PO box address is provided for correspondance yet their registered office is another address and another address in Harlow that is undelivered.

I want this matter to be dropped by those concerned and i want them to acknowledge that by sending another letter saying so that is personally signed by them and i dont expect any bullshit from them about this.I fully expect my credit rating not to be affected by this.IJ will confirm this of course and what i ask for i get.

Debt collection is an unregulated industry that is expanding by the day with bandwagon jumper debt recovery agencies who spring up out of nowhere like Estate agencies in a housing boom.

Cowboys.

So if they try any shit on here they will be very sorry.

Unlikely as they are all mouth

They are fishing for money it seems/

I dont see why i have to waste my time and waste money potentially having to talk to someone i dont know or reply to a letter when i dont want to over money that i dont owe anyway.

I will make copies of the letter and send it back with a short letter along the lines of WTF are you talking about?.Cease and desist.By recorded delivery of course.

"We look forward to the speedy conclusion of this matter".

They sure do and i do as well.

PROVE i owe the money.

Cheeky fuckers firing off letters for money that isnt owed and expecting myself to just snap to it .I dont like people that take liberties very much.

My paypal account is in credit.

Fuck off permanently because i bite back.

My rules here idiots not yours.


LMMFAO @ the Intrum Justitia scammer losers !!

Oh and last of all an uninvited guest who has been using next doors parking bay without their or anyone elses consent.It was a friend of a friend of nextdoor who moved out some time ago.This guy looked really wide and was as it turns out a convicted drug dealer who has served prison time for possesion of 50kg of Cannabis [fact].I could tell that by the way that he walked anyway [the A wing shuffle].He knocked on my door once but i didnt want him in here.I had a chat with him once and i was offered a quantity of Cannabis which i passed up on.



He had to leave.



And a potentially problematic client but i shall say no more about that yet.


I hope this can be resolved easily.


It has been resolved now as we are both happy and quite honestly there are very few things that cant be solved with dialogue and a certain amount of compromise and if both sides are happy then the problem is solved and if anyone wants to play the blame game then sometimes that too has to shared out equally if thats the case which it was to a certain extent this time.

Sometimes its the contractors fault for producing shoddy defective work but it can also just as easily be the clients fault for many different reasons but really if the contractors paperwork,costs and job spec is tight and the finished product is 100% and if the client is clear about everything then there really is no reason for there even to be any problem.If the work will cost X amount then that should be clear and if the work involves extra work not allowed for then work should stop until the extra work and its cost is agreed by contractor and client.Time and time again i have known contractors to go ahead with the work without proper agreements and then sting the client at the end of the contract for Extra costs which NO ONE likes if they are paying.Failure to follow this procedure WILL result in problems later on plus there is NO peace of mind for the contractor that they will get paid for that extra work so DONT do it.I have been guilty of this myself once or twice.BAD MOVE.

Arbitration that involves an objective third party can also be a very very good thing indeed and its a far far better solution to problems than court cases which can waste everyones time and which are costly and unpleasent for some plus you dont have any real control over the decision of that courtroom at the end of the day.

This works unless you are dealing with complete idiots who are unreasonable and who wont reason or see sense and it only works if both parties are aware that they will both have to compromise and if not it will fail.

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If the supreme court has requested that this document must be produced on Dec 1st and there is a conference on Dec 5th to decide or not to review the case then its their decision and everyone else will have to suck it and see.

What happens on dec 1st ? does Obama tell the court to go to Factcheck to see a birth certificate ?

When Obama is vetted before taking office does he tell those who are doing the vetting to go to Factcheck and view the posted image ?

The longer Obama tries to duck and dive then the more suspicious it may look


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lol!!
Sorry, this is a completely ridiculous story and that is why it is only found on pathetic websites like WorldNutDaily. If you think the SCOTUS is gonna attempt to deny Obama the presidency then your in need of some serious help. Obama has been briefed by the CIA prior to the exit of Bush and if there was any truth to these dumb accusations he wouldn't get the security clearance he now holds.

Duck and dive?
Nope, he's produced the cert of his birth and no amount of drool from you or anyone else will change that fact.

Get over it, he won and you're a sore loser.

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If he has already produced the birth certificate then he wont have a problem producing it again .

Its not a made up ridiculous story if there are pending court cases is it ?



Obama has been briefed by the CIa blah blah blah Obama has high level security clearance blah blah blah Fact check blah blah blah sore loser blah blah blah .

You all sound like a stuck record with your sore loser mantra.

I was over it ages ago .Thats how the vote turned out and i respect that result even if i dont support Obama.All i am doing now is sitting back and watching the show.He might be telling the truth.If so then thats fine by me.
Present the birth certificate to the court and i will shut up but not until and it sounds like he will have to be scrutinised anyway as its normal protocol for every newly elected POTUS so if he isnt US by birth then he is fucked either way unless its swept under the carpet but i guess you all think its OK to *potentially* violate the US constitution.







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You start with the word "if ". You're obviously assuming he hasn't produced his cert. The state of Hawaii has certified that he was born there. He was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
The facts are clear except for the very, very ignorant!!
lol!

You're a regressive moron sore loser!


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Nope wrong again. They can't verify that he was born there its against the law, privacy act. Moron. He has yet to produce his Birth Certificate. His Certificate of live birth is not an acceptable pc of paper for a passport. It is missing vital information. So he has yet to produce his REAL Birth Certificate.

I just went through this two weeks ago getting my passport. I had my certificate of live birth and It was NOT ACCEPTABLE TO GET A PASSPORT. I had to go to MD to Vital Statistics and get my Certified copy with the state seal of my birth certificate.

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They? lol!!
Sorry little ignorant one, they isn't gonna pass the laugh test!!
lol!!!
Your passport and this issue have NOTHING in common. The bottom line is Obama now has the highest security clearance given out by the CIA and the FBI. If his cert was phony he wouldn't have that clearance.

You're the moron for buying into this garbage!!


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Ah no he doesn't. LMAO at you ignorance. There are positions in the government, one being president that dont go through the security clearance like you and I. No security clearance is needed in this position. Obama would not pass the security clearance that I had to get where I work. He wouldn't even be allowed to work for the FBI. His admittied drug usage and felonies wouldn't allow it.

I almost was denied because I had one blemish on my credit report from a medical bill that was not paid time 3 yrs before I applied for the job.

He is a pc of shit and you voted him into office, you moron.

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Sorry little ignorant one, he has the highest security clearance one can get. You're so dumb you're not able to understand that fact.

Yep, i voted for him and have hated Dumbya before he was President. I'm a proud liberal and you're a regressive moron. You and your ilk will not be in power for the rest of your lifetime, suck on that dumbass.

ROFLMAOFOMC, no he doesn't.

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Listen liberal morons.

Obama has been requested to produce a birth certificate by the supreme court by Dec 1st.

Thats it so far.

We will see what happens.

This article also mentions a review if a case that is pending and if its approved and goes forward then again he may at some point have to produce a birth certificate to fight his case as that is what happens when you are a defendant in a court case.You produce evidence to prove that there is NO case.

The Dec 1st deadline still remains and you all know it.

A Lawsuit in the US supreme court is not an internet rumour and you know it.

So if he is telling the truth then whats your problem with Obama being asked to produce a birth certificate again just to solve the problem once and for all then we can all move on ?

Posting images online isnt good enough.



Would you believe Saddam Hussein had WMDS because it said so online or would you want more proof than that before going to war ?

When Obama produces the Hawaiian birth certificate thats genuine to the supreme court on Dec 1st i will believe him.End of story.

Its up to Obama to stop the controversy.

In the meantime the clock is ticking so suck it and see !

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McCain, who gives a fuck about McCain, he didn't win moron. Its about the False liar of Scumbama. He won't produce the BC because he knows that it will show the truth. He is NOT a citizen and his lies will be exposed and he will be forever ruined.

If someone asked me for my BC I could show it to them without hesitation! I have it right here sitting in a box in my closet!

What is the big deal unless he is hiding something or he needs time for his SS squad to fix it up for him!!

Quit with the bitching and the propoganda accepting.

Try a google search. Here's a link to a site who specialises in debunking internet rumours: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

It even has a nice link to see the birth certificate yourself.

i don't believe people are still going on about this shit.

LMAO at Snopes and yoyu!!! His certificate of live birth is not acceptable. Its not even any good to get a passport. What a joke you are! Snopes what a bullshit site. You believe that, ROFLMAO.

Oh for fuck sakes...

What do you want?

Here's the direct source, the release from Hawaii department of health, from the director Chiyome Fukino:

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

As he states, there's no reason for anyone without tangible interest to be given the birth certificate. He's viewed it and approved it.

Notice in particular it says "original birth certificate".

Your fucking paranoia is so past the stage of "LMAO" buddy. It's pathetic.

LMAO at a note. Means nothing. It shows us that a note can be produced. I can make these on my computer every single day without any problem! LMAO!!!! At you!!! Simple to show the REAL BC and it stops!!!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
This is from TODAY!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Well you keep hoping, and I'll keep shaking my head.

You're absolutely right. You could write up a note on your PC. What you couldn't do, is write a note as the director of a United States Health department, or anyone else in any position of authority, release it as an official document, and have it hosted on the Hawaiian Department of Health website.

What a stupid comment. I could write up a dossier on why we should go to war with Iran as well. Doesn't mean it'll mean dick.

unlike you, Chiyome Fukino holds authority and legitimacy. One of the few people in a position to judge has made a ruling, and you're still bitching and moaning.

This moron probably still believes there were WMD's in Iraq.
It is sad how dumb so many of my fellow Americans are, good thing the GOP approval ratings have dropped down to around 35%. Most Americans are just tired of this ignorance on display, it is beyond pathetic.

You are the dolt moron that actually believes that he didn't have WMD's. Love how misinformed the American people are. US media is so stupid and ill equipped to do thier jobs. Glad I work where we know the truth not what you are told because they have to tell you that. LMAO at you dolts, idiots and morons.

Sorry pal, no WMD's were found in Iraq. It is astounding how dumb you are.

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Quoted comment by peterwolfthefirst: Because its reported on worldnet doesnt change anything.They are just reporting.
If the supreme court has requested that this document must be produced on Dec 1st and there is a conference on Dec 5th to decide or not to review the case then its their decision and everyone else will have to suck it and see.

What happens on dec 1st ? does Obama tell the court to go to Factcheck to see a birth certificate ?

When Obama is vetted before taking office does he tell those who are doing the vetting to go to Factcheck and view the posted image ?

The longer Obama tries to duck and dive then the more suspicious it may look.

lol!!
Sorry, this is a completely ridiculous story and that is why it is only found on pathetic websites like WorldNutDaily. If you think the SCOTUS is gonna attempt to deny Obama the presidency then your in need of some serious help. Obama has been briefed by the CIA prior to the exit of Bush and if there was any truth to these dumb accusations he wouldn't get the security clearance he now holds.

Duck and dive?
Nope, he's produced the cert of his birth and no amount of drool from you or anyone else will change that fact.

Get over it, he won and you're a sore loser.


If he has already produced the birth certificate then he wont have a problem producing it again .

Its not a made up ridiculous story if there are pending court cases is it ?



Obama has been briefed by the CIa blah blah blah Obama has high level security clearance blah blah blah Fact check blah blah blah spore loser blah blah blah .

You all sound like a stuck record with your sore loser mantra.

I was over it ages ago .Thats how the vote turned out and i respect that result even if i dont support Obama.All i am doing now is sitting back and watching the show.He might be telling the truth.If so then thats fine by me.
Present the birth certificate to the court and i will shut up but not until and it sounds like he will have to be scrutinised anyway as its normal protocol for every newly elected POTUS so if he isnt US by birth then he is fucked either way unless its swept under the carpet but i guess you all think its OK to *potentially* violate the US constitution.







Suck it and see Libs.

You start with the word "if ". You're obviously assuming he hasn't produced his cert. The state of Hawaii has certified that he was born there. He was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
The facts are clear except for the very, very ignorant!!
lol!

You're a regressive moron sore loser!

Nope wrong again. They can't verify that he was born there its against the law, privacy act. Moron. He has yet to produce his Birth Certificate. His Certificate of live birth is not an acceptable pc of paper for a passport. It is missing vital information. So he has yet to produce his REAL Birth Certificate.

I just went through this two weeks ago getting my passport. I had my certificate of live birth and It was NOT ACCEPTABLE TO GET A PASSPORT. I had to go to MD to Vital Statistics and get my Certified copy with the state seal of my birth certificate.

They? lol!!
Sorry little ignorant one, they isn't gonna pass the laugh test!!
lol!!!
Your passport and this issue have NOTHING in common. The bottom line is Obama now has the highest security clearance given out by the CIA and the FBI. If his cert was phony he wouldn't have that clearance.

You're the moron for buying into this garbage!!

Ah no he doesn't. LMAO at you ignorance. There are positions in the government, one being president that dont go through the security clearance like you and I. No security clearance is needed in this position. Obama would not pass the security clearance that I had to get where I work. He wouldn't even be allowed to work for the FBI. His admittied drug usage and felonies wouldn't allow it.

I almost was denied because I had one blemish on my credit report from a medical bill that was not paid time 3 yrs before I applied for the job.

He is a pc of shit and you voted him into office, you moron.

Sorry little ignorant one, he has the highest security clearance one can get. You're so dumb you're not able to understand that fact.

Yep, i voted for him and have hated Dumbya before he was President. I'm a proud liberal and you're a regressive moron. You and your ilk will not be in power for the rest of your lifetime, suck on that dumbass.

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McCain, who gives a fuck about McCain, he didn't win moron. Its about the False liar of Scumbama. He won't produce the BC because he knows that it will show the truth. He is NOT a citizen and his lies will be exposed and he will be forever ruined.

If someone asked me for my BC I could show it to them without hesitation! I have it right here sitting in a box in my closet!

What is the big deal unless he is hiding something or he needs time for his SS squad to fix it up for him!!

Quit with the bitching and the propoganda accepting.

Try a google search. Here's a link to a site who specialises in debunking internet rumours: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

It even has a nice link to see the birth certificate yourself.

i don't believe people are still going on about this shit.

LMAO at Snopes and yoyu!!! His certificate of live birth is not acceptable. Its not even any good to get a passport. What a joke you are! Snopes what a bullshit site. You believe that, ROFLMAO.

Oh for fuck sakes...

What do you want?

Here's the direct source, the release from Hawaii department of health, from the director Chiyome Fukino:

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

As he states, there's no reason for anyone without tangible interest to be given the birth certificate. He's viewed it and approved it.

Notice in particular it says "original birth certificate".

Your fucking paranoia is so past the stage of "LMAO" buddy. It's pathetic.

LMAO at a note. Means nothing. It shows us that a note can be produced. I can make these on my computer every single day without any problem! LMAO!!!! At you!!! Simple to show the REAL BC and it stops!!!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
This is from TODAY!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Well you keep hoping, and I'll keep shaking my head.

You're absolutely right. You could write up a note on your PC. What you couldn't do, is write a note as the director of a United States Health department, or anyone else in any position of authority, release it as an official document, and have it hosted on the Hawaiian Department of Health website.

What a stupid comment. I could write up a dossier on why we should go to war with Iran as well. Doesn't mean it'll mean dick.

unlike you, Chiyome Fukino holds authority and legitimacy. One of the few people in a position to judge has made a ruling, and you're still bitching and moaning.

You said it, note doesn't mean shit.

I said it, you just mis read it. Again. Jesus it's like pushing water up hill with you you're so think.

A note from someone like me or you, off our home PC, posted up on facebook, means nothing.

That note, from Director of Hawaii's Department of Health, does mean something.

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McCain, who gives a fuck about McCain, he didn't win moron. Its about the False liar of Scumbama. He won't produce the BC because he knows that it will show the truth. He is NOT a citizen and his lies will be exposed and he will be forever ruined.

If someone asked me for my BC I could show it to them without hesitation! I have it right here sitting in a box in my closet!

What is the big deal unless he is hiding something or he needs time for his SS squad to fix it up for him!!

Quit with the bitching and the propoganda accepting.

Try a google search. Here's a link to a site who specialises in debunking internet rumours: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

It even has a nice link to see the birth certificate yourself.

i don't believe people are still going on about this shit.

LMAO at Snopes and yoyu!!! His certificate of live birth is not acceptable. Its not even any good to get a passport. What a joke you are! Snopes what a bullshit site. You believe that, ROFLMAO.

Oh for fuck sakes...

What do you want?

Here's the direct source, the release from Hawaii department of health, from the director Chiyome Fukino:

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

As he states, there's no reason for anyone without tangible interest to be given the birth certificate. He's viewed it and approved it.

Notice in particular it says "original birth certificate".

Your fucking paranoia is so past the stage of "LMAO" buddy. It's pathetic.

LMAO at a note. Means nothing. It shows us that a note can be produced. I can make these on my computer every single day without any problem! LMAO!!!! At you!!! Simple to show the REAL BC and it stops!!!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
This is from TODAY!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Well you keep hoping, and I'll keep shaking my head.

You're absolutely right. You could write up a note on your PC. What you couldn't do, is write a note as the director of a United States Health department, or anyone else in any position of authority, release it as an official document, and have it hosted on the Hawaiian Department of Health website.

What a stupid comment. I could write up a dossier on why we should go to war with Iran as well. Doesn't mean it'll mean dick.

unlike you, Chiyome Fukino holds authority and legitimacy. One of the few people in a position to judge has made a ruling, and you're still bitching and moaning.

This moron probably still believes there were WMD's in Iraq.
It is sad how dumb so many of my fellow Americans are, good thing the GOP approval ratings have dropped down to around 35%. Most Americans are just tired of this ignorance on display, it is beyond pathetic.

You are the dolt moron that actually believes that he didn't have WMD's. Love how misinformed the American people are. US media is so stupid and ill equipped to do thier jobs. Glad I work where we know the truth not what you are told because they have to tell you that. LMAO at you dolts, idiots and morons.

Sorry pal, no WMD's were found in Iraq. It is astounding how dumb you are.

Didn't say they found them, idiot. They had them, moron.

Lets say you have something that is illegal. I tell you that If you don't step away you are finished. But wait, I am going to first get some people on my side. I give you almost 2yrs before we finally do something.

Tell me smart ass what would you do?

I know you will lie, so I will tell you what you will do.

You will do everything in your power to get rid of that illegal item before we take you out. It will make me look bad when we come get your ass.

Hears what I would really do. I would attack and take your sorry ass without anyones authorization.

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If the supreme court has requested that this document must be produced on Dec 1st and there is a conference on Dec 5th to decide or not to review the case then its their decision and everyone else will have to suck it and see.

What happens on dec 1st ? does Obama tell the court to go to Factcheck to see a birth certificate ?

When Obama is vetted before taking office does he tell those who are doing the vetting to go to Factcheck and view the posted image ?

The longer Obama tries to duck and dive then the more suspicious it may look.


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lol!!
Sorry, this is a completely ridiculous story and that is why it is only found on pathetic websites like WorldNutDaily. If you think the SCOTUS is gonna attempt to deny Obama the presidency then your in need of some serious help. Obama has been briefed by the CIA prior to the exit of Bush and if there was any truth to these dumb accusations he wouldn't get the security clearance he now holds.

Duck and dive?
Nope, he's produced the cert of his birth and no amount of drool from you or anyone else will change that fact.

Get over it, he won and you're a sore loser.

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If he has already produced the birth certificate then he wont have a problem producing it again .

Its not a made up ridiculous story if there are pending court cases is it ?



Obama has been briefed by the CIa blah blah blah Obama has high level security clearance blah blah blah Fact check blah blah blah spore loser blah blah blah .

You all sound like a stuck record with your sore loser mantra.

I was over it ages ago .Thats how the vote turned out and i respect that result even if i dont support Obama.All i am doing now is sitting back and watching the show.He might be telling the truth.If so then thats fine by me.
Present the birth certificate to the court and i will shut up but not until and it sounds like he will have to be scrutinised anyway as its normal protocol for every newly elected POTUS so if he isnt US by birth then he is fucked either way unless its swept under the carpet but i guess you all think its OK to *potentially* violate the US constitution.







Suck it and see Libs.


posted by peterw..........


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You start with the word "if ". You're obviously assuming he hasn't produced his cert. The state of Hawaii has certified that he was born there. He was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
The facts are clear except for the very, very ignorant!!
lol!

You're a regressive moron sore loser!


*****************************************

Nope wrong again. They can't verify that he was born there its against the law, privacy act. Moron. He has yet to produce his Birth Certificate. His Certificate of live birth is not an acceptable pc of paper for a passport. It is missing vital information. So he has yet to produce his REAL Birth Certificate.

I just went through this two weeks ago getting my passport. I had my certificate of live birth and It was NOT ACCEPTABLE TO GET A PASSPORT. I had to go to MD to Vital Statistics and get my Certified copy with the state seal of my birth certificate.


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They? lol!!
Sorry little ignorant one, they isn't gonna pass the laugh test!!
lol!!!
Your passport and this issue have NOTHING in common. The bottom line is Obama now has the highest security clearance given out by the CIA and the FBI. If his cert was phony he wouldn't have that clearance.

You're the moron for buying into this garbage!!


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Ah no he doesn't. LMAO at you ignorance. There are positions in the government, one being president that dont go through the security clearance like you and I. No security clearance is needed in this position. Obama would not pass the security clearance that I had to get where I work. He wouldn't even be allowed to work for the FBI. His admittied drug usage and felonies wouldn't allow it.

I almost was denied because I had one blemish on my credit report from a medical bill that was not paid time 3 yrs before I applied for the job.

He is a pc of shit and you voted him into office, you moron.


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Sorry little ignorant one, he has the highest security clearance one can get. You're so dumb you're not able to understand that fact.

Yep, i voted for him and have hated Dumbya before he was President. I'm a proud liberal and you're a regressive moron. You and your ilk will not be in power for the rest of your lifetime, suck on that dumbass.


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ROFLMAOFOMC, no he doesn't.

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Quoted comment by figatova: It would be funny if it turns out neither Obama nor McCain are natural born US citizens.

McCain, who gives a fuck about McCain, he didn't win moron. Its about the False liar of Scumbama. He won't produce the BC because he knows that it will show the truth. He is NOT a citizen and his lies will be exposed and he will be forever ruined.

If someone asked me for my BC I could show it to them without hesitation! I have it right here sitting in a box in my closet!

What is the big deal unless he is hiding something or he needs time for his SS squad to fix it up for him!!


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Quit with the bitching and the propoganda accepting.

Try a google search. Here's a link to a site who specialises in debunking internet rumours: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

It even has a nice link to see the birth certificate yourself.

i don't believe people are still going on about this shit.


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LMAO at Snopes and yoyu!!! His certificate of live birth is not acceptable. Its not even any good to get a passport. What a joke you are! Snopes what a bullshit site. You believe that, ROFLMAO.


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Oh for fuck sakes...

What do you want?

Here's the direct source, the release from Hawaii department of health, from the director Chiyome Fukino:

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

As he states, there's no reason for anyone without tangible interest to be given the birth certificate. He's viewed it and approved it.

Notice in particular it says "original birth certificate".

Your fucking paranoia is so past the stage of "LMAO" buddy. It's pathetic.

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LMAO at a note. Means nothing. It shows us that a note can be produced. I can make these on my computer every single day without any problem! LMAO!!!! At you!!! Simple to show the REAL BC and it stops!!!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
This is from TODAY!

On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Well you keep hoping, and I'll keep shaking my head.



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You're absolutely right. You could write up a note on your PC. What you couldn't do, is write a note as the director of a United States Health department, or anyone else in any position of authority, release it as an official document, and have it hosted on the Hawaiian Department of Health website.

What a stupid comment. I could write up a dossier on why we should go to war with Iran as well. Doesn't mean it'll mean dick.

unlike you, Chiyome Fukino holds authority and legitimacy. One of the few people in a position to judge has made a ruling, and you're still bitching and moaning.

You said it, note doesn't mean shit.

I said it, you just mis read it. Again. Jesus it's like pushing water up hill with you you're so think.

A note from someone like me or you, off our home PC, posted up on facebook, means nothing.

That note, from Director of Hawaii's Department of Health, does mean something.


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Where do they get this shit from about security clearances ??

He is a junior senator who has been elected to be the next POTUS.His foot isnt even in the door yet as far as security clearances are concerned.How much security clearance does a newly elected POTUS have who hasnt even been sworn in yet and hasnt been through the entire election process yet [electoral college votes]and isnt even in the White House yet have FFS ??

Dose he have access to the Nuclear arsenal of the US yet ??

NO HE DOESNT so he DOESNT have top level security of the highest level yet so WTF are you all talking about ??

HE HASNT BEEN GIVEN IT YET BECAUSE HE HASNT BEEN SWORN IN YET !!!!!

It sounds like a kids fantasy.

CIA and FBI special clearances and all that .Unless they are all fully paid up Obama supporters the CIA/FBI are all going to be watching every single move that he makes all of the time thats for sure even if he does qualify as US born.

Produce the birth certificate as requested and stop wasting everyones time .

Fucking idiots.I am laughing at them all while typing.

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The security of the United States is the responsibility of Chiyome Fukiyo of the

Hawaiian Department of Health who says that everything is in order and has produced a

note and posted an image online to prove it .


This is all totally absurd and shouldnt be happening but its entertaining anyway.


Imagine the noise that these MoronDrones would be making if there was the same controversy about any other newly elected POTUS that wasnt Obama ?



And how many of these morons who keep insisting that Obama is US born objected to Bush saying that Saddam Hussein still had WMDS prior to the second war/invasion/liberation of Iraq ? on the pretext of correct/incorrect intelligence stating exactly that ??

I dont hear hardly ANY Libs say anything about the Patriot act and they dont have a clue about anything like that and they seem to show no interest in anything of that nature and hardly any of them talk about anything of any importance other than Sarah Palin.Anything to do with Sarah Palin and they can answer any question you like.

Dumb Fucktards who watch their garbage biased CNN Infotainment and are led by the nose by it.

Quite honestly before i started posting on forums especially a political forum and before i followed the US election campaign and commented on it online i wasnt aware that this level of arrogance,childishness,hypocrisy,blindness,stupidity and so many other things actually existed.